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Post by Sprouts on Dec 13, 2013 13:37:38 GMT -5
Many people are super sensitive to gluten so buying commercial eggs and chickens or any meat that has been feed wheat, barley, etc is off limits to them. But there is an alternative. Sprouts can be corn, sunflowers, peas, etc. This can give the gluten free diet an expansion to their menu by raising their own livestock on sprouts that meet their needs.
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Post by Jely on Sept 1, 2014 13:32:25 GMT -5
My son is IGE allergic to the gluten grains and oats. His allergist recommends he also avoid wheatgrass barleygrass, etc. We have decided to raise our own livestock (dairy goats, rabbits, muscovy) if we can figure out how to raise them without endangering our son. I love the idea of forage but can't find WHAT to grow, other than gluten or oats, to meet their nutritional needs. I would be interested in learning more about how the sprouts you have listed above can be used for a well rounded diet.
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Post by Sprouts on Sept 1, 2014 16:48:23 GMT -5
Jely,
What about corn sprouts, sunflower, radish or pea sprouts?
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Post by Jely on Sept 2, 2014 8:19:45 GMT -5
Jely, What about corn sprouts, sunflower, radish or pea sprouts? All of those are fine also sorghum and millet. Where would I find information on how to put them together to create a balanced feed that meets the animals nutritional needs?
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Post by Flossy on Sept 4, 2014 6:42:16 GMT -5
Do a forum search for goats and chickens we found some links to sprout mixes on the forum in the past.
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Post by doc on Sept 7, 2014 16:21:41 GMT -5
Actually, eggs have not been found to contain more than 1 ppm of gluten, while a food is considered "gluten free" if it contains <20ppm. Animals fed grains will not be found to have those grains' proteins in their meat. [Think about how "digestion" works.] For those with celiac disease (gluten sensitivity), no meat, regardless of how it's raised, will cause any problems. {IgE mediated allergy to gluten is another question, but typically meat shouldn't carry enough gluten to make a difference. If someone reports a problem from meat or eggs, it's more than likely it was due to contamination from some other source of gluten or a second allergen, like albumen.)
OTOH- this doesn't detract from the value of growing/feeding sprouts, and the creatures probably would appreciate a more varied diet rather than eating only wheat sprouts anyways.
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Post by Jely on Sept 8, 2014 2:24:18 GMT -5
Sept 7, 2014 16:21:41 GMT -5 doc said: Actually, eggs have not been found to contain more than 1 ppm of gluten, while a food is considered "gluten free" if it contains <20ppm. Animals fed grains will not be found to have those grains' proteins in their meat. [Think about how "digestion" works.] For those with celiac disease (gluten sensitivity), no meat, regardless of how it's raised, will cause any problems. {IgE mediated allergy to gluten is another question, but typically meat shouldn't carry enough gluten to make a difference. If someone reports a problem from meat or eggs, it's more than likely it was due to contamination from some other source of gluten or a second allergen, like albumen.)
OTOH- this doesn't detract from the value of growing/feeding sprouts, and the creatures probably would appreciate a more varied diet rather than eating only wheat sprouts anyways.
While I appreciate the input, and maybe this might be helpful to another who finds this thread, I am well aware that there is little gluten in eggs or meat from animals that have ingested gluten. We eat chicken regularly that I assume is fed a grain (gluten) based diet. 20 ppm has been set as the standard for the safety of Celiac's. It was never intended to be safe for IGE allergies. My son has reacted to products well below that threshold. Think of the peanut allergic child who might walk into a room where someone sits eating a pb&j and then has an airborne or contact induced anaphylactic reaction... That is closer to the level of sensitivity that my son has to wheat. Not that all allergies are as severe as my example nor is my son quite that severe. It is a closer comparison to his tolerance level. I don't really care if my animal ingests gluten, it is more natural for them than humans. I do care for my sons safety in his own home and yard in proximity to the animal feed.
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Post by doc on Sept 8, 2014 6:54:42 GMT -5
Jely, thanks for responding & remaining skeptical. When the weatherman says it'll be sunny and you're getting drenched in a rain storm, do you believe the "expert" or your own senses? The GI tract protects us pretty well from invaders, while the respiratory tract is less imposing & particularly prone toward allergic responses. Stored grains tend to be dusty, so it sounds like your son is quite sensitive and best not to even have those sources anywhere near him. It's a jungle out there. Good luck with his problems.
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